USA Chart Comparison: Conclusions

This is my last post on the USA chart  comparison.

What do we know about our country?

Turned Inward

I think we tend to be turned inward toward ourselves, except that we have often sent our armed forces to foreign lands to intervene in situations.  Being turned inward might indicate many points below the horizon, especially the Sun or Moon.  The constitution chart has the Sun and five other of the major points below the horizon.  The Sibly chart has the Moon and four other of the major points below the horizon.  Both charts show major energy focused internally, but the constitution chart more so.

Interfering in Foreign Situations in Reaction

Interfering in foreign situations as a reaction might indicate an energetic link between the seventh house and the ninth house or between Vulcan and Jupiter.  In the constitution chart, the Sun rules the ninth house and the ninth house only contains the Part of Fortune.  The Sun is in the fourth house, right on the Nadir and is square Chiron in the seventh house, making an energetic link between the seventh and ninth houses.  The seventh house is ruled by Venus in the third house and Mercury in the fourth house.  Neither Mercury nor Venus aspect the Sun.  The seventh house also contains the Moon and the South Node, both gut reaction points – supporting a gut level basis for making war.  Also, the Moon was approaching a square to the Sun and a conjunction to Chiron.  Vulcan is in the twelfth house in a loose trine to Jupiter in the eighth house, both being houses of things below the surface.

In the Sibly chart, the ninth house contains Neptune and the seventh house contains Mars , Venus, Jupiter, and the Sun.  Here, I am only looking at the twelve major points ruling the signs.  The one aspect between the points in the two houses was Mars square Neptune, an active aspect.  The ruler of the ninth house is the Sun, and the ruler of the sign intercepted in the ninth house is Chiron.  The ruler of the seventh house cusp is Mercury.  The Sun is in the seventh house, giving one seventh house / ninth house tie.  Chiron is in the fourth house and Mercury is in the eighth house.  Chiron and Mercury are in a square to each other, giving another active seventh house / ninth house contact.  Vulcan is in the second house and Jupiter is in seventh house.  Vulcan and Jupiter are sesquiquadrate to each other.  In the Sibly chart, there is a lot of energy connecting the foreign with war and peace.

Wars and Peace with Neighbors

Generally, we have been at peace with our neighbors, but we have had in our history wars with both Canada and Mexico.  We would expect something martial or of the nature of Vulcan tied to the third house.  In the constitution chart, Mars and Venus are in the third house, along with Pluto and Saturn, and the ruler of the house is Uranus in the eighth house.  Mars and Venus were both applying to a square with Vulcan, while Vulcan was applying to a trine with Uranus.  In the Sibly chart, the Moon is in the third house and Uranus, the ruler of the house, was in the sixth house.  Neptune, ruler of the intercepted Pisces in the third house, was in the ninth house.  The only aspect of the three points to Vulcan was Vulcan applying to an inconjunct to Neptune.  I would say that the constitution third house is more descriptive of our neighborly affairs, with both Mars and Venus in the house and Uranus in the controlling eighth house.

Artistic and Scientific Success Abroad before Domestic

Some of our most successful artists and scientists have not had success in this country until they were successful in foreign countries.  Artists are under the seventh house.  Science is under the ninth house, as are foreign countries.  Fame is under the tenth house.  Fame in a foreign country would involve the sixth house (Using the derivative house system, the sixth house is the tenth sign away from the ninth.). So we should see links between planets related to the seventh and ninth houses and the sixth house and tenth houses.

In the constitution chart, the sixth, ninth, and tenth houses do not contain any of the twelve major points.  The seventh house contains the Moon and Chiron.  Taurus is on both the sixth and seventh houses – so foreign fame is achieved before domestic artistic development – and is ruled by Venus in the third house, at least on the surface.  Gemini is intercepted in the seventh house and is ruled by Mercury in the fourth house.  Mercury was retrograde – which can indicate delays – and applying to a semisextile to Venus, ruler of the sixth and seventh houses, and in a square to Chiron, which rules the tenth house.  The ninth house has Leo on the cusp and is ruled by the Sun in the fourth house.  The Sun was approaching a square with Chiron which was ruling the tenth – linking the foreign with fame, and a conjunction with Mercury, ruling the intercepted Gemini in the seventh – linking the house of the scientist with the house of the artist.  The Moon, in the seventh house, was approaching a trine to Venus, squares to Mercury and the Sun, and a conjunction to Chiron – linking the four ruled houses.

The Sibly chart had Taurus on the sixth house, Gemini on the seventh house, Leo on the ninth house, Virgo intercepted in the ninth, and Libra on the tenth house.  Venus, the ruler of the sixth house, was in the seventh house.  The sixth house contained Uranus.  Mercury, the ruler of the seventh house, was in the eighth house.  The Sun, Mars, and Jupiter were also in the seventh house.  The ninth house contained Neptune and the ruler of the ninth house, the Sun, was in the seventh house.  Virgo, intercepted in the ninth, was ruled by Chiron in the fourth house.  The tenth house was ruled by Vulcan in the second house, and contained Saturn.

All of the Cancer points in the seventh house were applying to a square to Saturn in the tenth house, indicating fame for artists.  Mercury and Venus were applying to a conjunction with each other, linking the sixth and seventh houses.  The Cancer points were applying to a sextile to Neptune in the ninth house, also linking the seventh house and the ninth house.  Venus was applying to a sesquiquadrate to Vulcan, linking the rulers of the sixth and tenth houses.  Both the Sun and Mercury were applying to an inconjunct to Vulcan, linking the rulers of the seventh and ninth houses with the ruler of the tenth house in an aspect of edginess.

There is a lot more energy around the sixth, seventh, ninth, and tenth houses in the Sibly chart, especially the seventh house, indicating that artists would be emphasized in our society.  Both charts show links between the four houses.  For the constitution chart, we see foreign fame coming before becoming a domestic artist, which seems descriptive of what often happens for our artists.

Welching on Important International Agreements

When the rest of the world was ready to work together to solve international problems, twice that I know of we have welched on leadership, with our Senate refusing to ratify a treaty or agreement – I am thinking of the League of Nations and the Kyoto Protocol – and later we did act on the international problem.

The refusal to ratify the League of Nations or the Kyoto Protocol was done by the Senate.  In both cases, the president supported the ratification.  In both cases, the issue involved an agreement with foreign countries.  So, we should see agreement between the tenth house (the president) and the ninth house (foreign countries) and disagreement between both the tenth and ninth houses and the eleventh house (the Senate).

In the constitution chart, the ninth house is ruled by the Sun in the fourth house and contains none of the twelve ruling points.  The tenth house is ruled by Chiron in the seventh house and contains none of the twelve ruling points.  The eleventh house is ruled by Vulcan in the twelfth house and contains only Neptune of the twelve ruling points.

For the rulers, the Sun is applying to a close square to Chiron.  Although not in orb, the Sun is applying to a trine to Vulcan.  Again not in orb, Vulcan is applying to an inconjunct to Chiron.  Here I am only considering applying aspects, where the two points remain in the same sign until the aspect is complete – as is done in horary astrology.  For Neptune, the Sun is not in orb of an aspect to Neptune, but is applying to an inconjunct to Neptune.  Chiron is applying to an in orb trine to Neptune.  Here, I am using an orb of eight degrees. Neptune is the only one of the four points that is retrograde.

So we see a more complex structure that agreement between the ninth and tenth houses and struggle for both with the eleventh house.  Instead, there is struggle leading to achievement between the president and foreign countries.  Between foreign countries and the senate, the is a mix of ease and an inability to see each other, with both aspects not being in orb.  With Neptune retrograde and the aspects not being in orb, one would expect delays in relations between the two.  Between the president and the senate, again there is a mix of ease and not being able to see each other.  With the large orb for the trine between Chiron and Neptune, with the out of orb inconjunct with Chiron and Vulcan, and with Neptune being retrograde, we would expect delays for the implementation by the senate of what was worked out between the president and foreign powers.

For the Sibly chart, the ninth house is ruled by the Sun, in the seventh house, and contains Neptune.  Virgo, intercepted in the ninth house, is ruled by Chiron in the fourth house.  The tenth and eleventh houses are ruled by Vulcan, in the second house.  The tenth house contains Saturn.  The eleventh house contains none of the twelve ruling points.  Most of the eleventh house is covered by Scorpio.  If the time for the birth of our nation is a little later what I am using, Scorpio would be on the eleventh house cusp and the eleventh house would be ruled by Pluto, in the second house.

I start with the ruling points.  The Sun was applying to an out of orb inconjunct with Vulcan and Vulcan was applying to an in orb sextile with Chiron, so there are links between the ninth, tenth houses, and, if Libra is on the eleventh house cusp, the eleventh house.  Here, I am using an orb of four degrees for the inconjunct and six for the sextile.

The Sun was applying to an out of orb opposition to Pluto, linking the ninth and eleventh houses if Scorpio is on the eleventh house cusp.  But, for Chiron, the in orb square with Pluto was not exact until after Pluto made its first ingress into Aquarius, so there was no applying aspect between the rulers of Virgo and Scorpio.  The orb for the opposition and square was eight degrees.  Between Vulcan and Pluto, there was no aspect, since I am not using the semisextile, so the is not a link between the rulers of the tenth and eleventh houses if Scorpio is on the eleventh house cusp.

For Neptune, Vulcan was in an in orb applying inconjunct to Neptune and Neptune was in an in orb applying trine to Pluto, linking the ninth house with the tenth and eleventh houses.  For Saturn, the Sun was applying to an in orb square with Saturn, Saturn was applying to an in orb opposition with Chiron, Vulcan was in an applying trine to Saturn, and Saturn was in an in orb applying square to Pluto, again linking the ninth, tenth, and eleventh houses.  Saturn and Neptune were not in an applying aspect to each other. Of the Sun, Chiron, Pluto, Neptune, and Saturn, only Pluto was retrograde, so there is not a strong signature for delays, except some if Scorpio is on the eleventh house.

Between foreign powers (ninth house) and the president (tenth house), there is a mix of two inconjuncts and a sextile – that is not being able to see each other along with an ability to communicate.  For foreign powers and the senate (eleventh house), there is a mix of a sextile, opposition, and trine.  So there would be an ability to communicate, some conflict, and some ease.  If Libra is on the eleventh house cusp, we again have two inconjuncts and a sextile.  If Pluto rules the house, the aspects are an opposition and a trine – conflict (or negotiation) and ease.

For the president and the senate, they are both ruled by the same sign if Libra is on the cusp; and Vulcan is applying to a square to Saturn.  If Scorpio is on the cusp, the only relevant aspect is a square between Saturn and Pluto.  In either case, there is struggle between the president and the senate.

With Pluto retrograde, if Scorpio was on the eleventh house cusp, there would be delays in senate action.  There is a pretty even mix of in orb and out of orb aspects to Pluto.  If Libra was on the cusp, the president would have to act before the senate would.  There is one out of orb aspect and three in orb aspects to Vulcan.  There is not a strong signature for delays if Libra is on the eleventh house cusp.

Sneak Attacks

We have been the recipients of sneak attacks twice that I know of – Pearl Harbor and 9/11.  Here we would look for relations between the twelfth house (behind the scenes or hidden activities) and the seventh house (war and peace) or between Neptune (dissimulating) and Vulcan (making war and peace).

In the constitution chart, the twelfth house has Scorpio on the cusp (which is also on the first house cusp) and contains Vulcan.  Pluto was in the third house.  The seventh house has Taurus on the cusp and contains the Moon and Chiron.  Venus was in the third house, too.

Looking at the house rulers first, Pluto and Venus are not in an applying aspect, so the rulers of a sneak attack and war and peace are not related.  However, the Moon was applying to a trine to both Pluto and Venus, connecting the two.

Other aspects were the Moon applying to an inconjunct with Vulcan in the twelfth, Venus applying to a square with Vulcan, and Chiron applying to a trine with Pluto.  The high number of trines is interesting.  I think we might tend to be complacent with regard to the possibility of sneak attack.

Vulcan was not in an aspect with Neptune.  Vulcan in the twelfth house would indicate that making war and peace could be the result of the actions of secret enemies – sneak attacks.  Venus, ruling the house of war and peace, was in a square (struggle) to Vulcan (making war and peace) and a trine (ease) to Neptune (being deceived).

The Sibly chart has Scorpio on the twelfth house cusp, with Pluto in the second house.  There are none of the twelve ruling points in the twelfth house.  Gemini is on the seventh house cusp and Mercury is in the eighth house.  The seventh house contains the Sun, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter.  Vulcan was in the second house and Neptune was in the ninth house.

First, looking at the rulers, Mercury, ruler of the house of war and peace, was applying to an opposition to Pluto, ruler of the house of treachery.  Looking at the points in the seventh house, the Sun and Venus were also applying to an opposition to Pluto.  Jupiter does not apply to an aspect with Pluto until after Pluto leaves Cancer for Leo, even though Pluto retrogrades back into Cancer for the aspect.  Mars is applying to an inconjunct with Pluto.  Looking at Vulcan and Neptune, Vulcan is applying to an inconjunct with Neptune.

So, there is a lot of energy connecting war and peace with treachery in the Sibly chart.  However,the energy was all oppositions and inconjuncts.  Both aspects tend to be aware of others.  The opposition can represent conflict or reflection.  Both aspects tend toward separations in personal charts.

Polarization

We have often been highly polarized as a nation – from our very beginning, and we almost always have had a de facto two party system rather than the higher number of parties in many other democracies.  I would expect to see major oppositions in the chart, particularly affecting the houses and points related to politics – the fourth, tenth, and eleventh houses and the Moon, Jupiter, and Saturn.

In the constitution chart, there is just one (out of orb) applying opposition, from Uranus in the eighth house to Pluto in the third house.  Pluto rules the twelfth and first houses.  Uranus rules the third house.  None of the points or houses I considered political were involved in oppositions.

In the Sibly chart, there are four applying oppositions – the Sun, Mercury, and Venus opposite Pluto and Saturn opposite Chiron.  The Sun was in the seventh house and rules the ninth house.  Mercury was in the eighth house and rules the seventh house.  Venus was in the seventh house and rules the sixth house.  Pluto was in the second house and rules the twelfth, and possibly the eleventh, house.  Saturn was in the tenth house and rules the second house.  Chiron was in the fourth house and rules the intercepted Virgo in the ninth house.  The only point that I considered political in an opposition was Saturn.  The political houses involved in an opposition are the tenth, and possibly, the eleventh.

Nation of Immigrants

Most Americans come from heritages that are not native to the Americas.  The American people are under the fourth house.

In the constitution chart, the fourth house contains the Sun and Mercury and is ruled by Neptune in the eleventh house.  The Sun rules the ninth house and Mercury rules Gemini, intercepted in the seventh house.  With the Sun in the fourth house, ruling the ninth house, we would be centered in leading in our dealings with foreigners.

In the Sibly chart, Chiron is in the fourth house and the house is ruled by Mars in the seventh house.  Chiron rules the Virgo, intercepted in the ninth house.  Chiron in the fourth house and ruling a sign intercepted in the ninth house would indicate we are a people working hard, which would affect our dealings with foreigners.

Like of Cars and Communications

We like our cars and our ways of communication.  Cars and communications are found in the third house of a chart.

The constitution chart has Venus, Mars, Saturn, and Pluto in the third house and Aquarius, ruled by Uranus in the eighth house, on the cusp.  So we would take pleasure in, compete with, build businesses around, and deeply desire our cars and communications.  With the ruler of the house in the eighth house, our cars and communications would come out of radicalising our joint resources.

The Sibly chart has the Moon in the third house; the third house has Aquarius on the cusp, ruled by Uranus in the sixth house; and Pisces, ruled by Neptune in the ninth house, is intercepted in the third house.  The Moon is one of the three strongest points in a chart, indicating that cars and communication would be important to us.  We would protect and emote about our cars and communications.  With the ruler of the third house in the sixth house, our cars and communications would come out of radicalising Continue reading

USA Chart Comparison: The Twelfth House

The twelfth house of a national chart contains such things as secret enemies of the country; that which goes on behind the scenes in the country; places of confinement such as hospitals, jails, monasteries, and convents; that which is hidden; and the ideals of a country, among other things.  In looking at the twelfth house, I will start with the constitution chart, then look at the Sibly chart.

The Constitution Chart

Scorpio on the Twelfth House Cusp

In the constitution chart, the twelfth house had Scorpio on the cusp, as does the first house.  Since Scorpio is on both the twelfth house and the first house, twelfth house affairs must be dealt with before first house affairs can occur.  For example, we would have to deal with our secret enemies before we could develop an awareness of ourselves.

Scorpio is an intense, secretive, and probing sign.  With Scorpio on the twelfth house cusp, we might approach our secret enemies probingly.  Or, we might express our ideals intensely.  The twelfth house contained only one point of the points that I use, Vulcan (which I, and only I, use as far as I know – see the blog on the second house for more information on Vulcan.).  Pluto, the ruler of Scorpio, was in the third house in Aquarius.

Vulcan in the Twelfth

Vulcan in the twelfth house in Scorpio might indicate that, as a nation, we might make war or peace behind the scenes cruelly.  Or that we might love our courageous ideals.  Or that we might secretively balance our compassion and understanding.

Vulcan was making one aspect of the close aspects that I am using, Mars in the third house in Aquarius was in a waxing square to Vulcan.  Mars in a waxing square to Vulcan might indicate struggling to put down a foundation for interacting powerfully behind the scenes through asserting ourselves in an egalitarian way in the area of our communications.

Pluto Ruling the Twelfth House

Pluto, as ruler of the twelfth house and in the third house and Aquarius, might indicate that we use electrical communications in our approach to secret enemies.  Or, that behind our prisons are unusual ideas.  Or, that our ideals come from radical teachers.

Pluto made no aspects of the close aspects that I am using.  So, there would not be a lot of triggers pushing twelfth house matters under the constitution chart.

The Sibly Chart

Scorpio on the Twelfth House Cusp

In the Sibly chart, Scorpio is on the twelfth house and Sagittarius is on the first house, so the two houses are not linked by sign, like the two are in the constitution chart.  However, possibly, Scorpio was also on the eleventh house cusp.  If so, we would have to make friends and set goals before dealing with our secret enemies and developing our institutions of compassion and understanding.  There were none of the points that I am using in the twelfth house in the Sibly chart.  See the section on the constitution chart in this post for a description of Scorpio on the twelfth house.

Pluto Ruling the Twelfth House

Pluto, the ruler of Scorpio, was in the second house in Capricorn.  With the ruler of the twelfth house in the second house in Capricorn, we might expect to make secret enemies as a result of stingy finances.  Or, we might put people in prison out of strict values.  Or, we might display compassion with serious money.

Pluto was making three aspects of the close aspects that I am using; an opposition to the Part of Fortune in the eighth house in Cancer; a semisquare to the Sagittarius Ascendant; and a sequiquadrate to the Gemini Descendent.  The aspects were covered in the last post and in the post on the second house.  The three aspects are active aspects and would put some energy into the twelfth house.  We might find some conflict between controlling our money and the happiness we take in our joint resources, at the same time as a sense of irritation and frustration with our controlling our money when we consider our appearance and reflections.

USA Chart Comparison: The Eleventh House

The eleventh house of the chart of a nation contains the nations friendly to the nation, the country’s aspirations, political structures and affairs at all levels of the nation’s governments, and the government’s money, among other things.  I will start by looking at the eleventh house in the constitution chart, then the Sibly chart.

The Constitution Chart

The constitution chart has Libra on the eleventh house cusp.  With Libra on the cusp, we would tend to be egalitarian in our political structures and affairs, also peace seeking and fair.  Our aspirations would be just and mathematical.  Our approach to friendship with other nations would be diplomatic and balanced.  Our government’s approach to its money might be indecisive.

There were three of the points that I am using in the eleventh house in the constitution chart, Neptune, Juno, and Vesta.  Neptune and Juno were in Libra and Vesta was in Scorpio.  The ruler of Libra, and as such the eleventh house, was Vulcan (I use the point I call Vulcan as the ruler of Libra rather than using Venus, the traditional ruler.  As far as I know, I am the only person to use Vulcan.  See the last post for more information.).  In the constitution chart, Vulcan was in the twelfth house in Scorpio.

Neptune

Neptune in the eleventh house in Libra might indicate that, as a nation, we would idealize our just aspirations.  Or that we would socially confuse nations that are friends.  Or that we would sacrifice, in a balanced way, our government’s money.

Mercury was making a waxing inconjunct to Neptune from the fourth house and Pisces.  Venus was in a waxing trine to Neptune from the third house and Aquarius.  Ceres was in a waxing sextile to Neptune from the first house and Sagittarius.  Lilith was trine Neptune from the third house in Aquarius.  The Part of Fortune was in a waning semisquare to Neptune from the ninth house and Virgo.  Only the semisquare is an active aspect.  There is a lot of ease, a small amount of insecurity, and a small amount of energy associated with our idealizing, understanding, and sorrowing.

The Mercury/Neptune aspect might indicate anxiety being generated by communicating patriotism, coming out of idealizing hopes, dreams, and aspirations, in an attempt to put things in order.  The Venus/Neptune aspect might indicate luck and ease through valuing ideas, coming out of idealizing hopes, dreams, and aspirations, in an attempt to form foundations.

The Ceres/Neptune sextile might indicate opportunities through nurturing and releasing our appearance, coming out of idealizing hopes, dreams, and aspirations, in the process of gathering stuff to move forward.  The Lilith/Neptune trine might indicate ease and luck through our collective feministing about our ideas, coming out of idealizing hopes, dreams, and aspirations.  The Part of Fortune in a waning semisquare to Neptune might indicate energy available for finding happiness in our beliefs, coming out of idealizing hopes, dreams, and aspirations.

Juno and Vesta

Juno in the eleventh house in Libra might indicate we would act on jealousy of our beautiful hopes, dreams, and wishes.  Or of cultured friendly nations.  Or of social political processes.  Juno was making seven aspects of the close aspects that I am using.

Juno was in a sesquiquadrate to the Sun/Saturn/Nadir conjunction, waxing from the Sun and Nadir and waning to Saturn. The Midheaven in Virgo was in a waning semisquare to Juno.  Mars was in a waxing trine to Juno from the third house and Aquarius. Juno was in a waxing square to Uranus in the eighth house in Leo.  Juno was conjunct Vesta in Scorpio, with both in the eleventh house.  Except for the trine to Mars, all of these aspects are active aspects.  There is a lot of energy affecting our acting on  jealousy, plus some luck with the trine.

Vesta in the eleventh house in Scorpio might indicate devoting ourselves intensely to the political process.  Or sistering nations friendly to us, occultly.

Vesta, like Juno, was in a waxing square to Uranus in the eighth in Leo.  As noted above, Vesta and Juno were conjunct.  Vesta was also in a waxing sesquiquadrate to Chiron in the seventh house in Gemini.  And, Vesta was in a waning semisextile to the North Node in first house and Sagittarius and in a waxing inconjunct to the South Node in the seventh house in Gemini.  The aspects are a mix of the active and the insecure, with the emphasis on active.

Juno conjunct Vesta indicates balanced acting on jealousy and intense devoting occur together.  The Juno/Vesta conjunction in a square to Uranus, with Juno and Uranus semisquare the Midheaven and sesquiquadrate the Nadir/Sun conjunction, is a strong aspect pattern, particularly with the Sun involved.  The waxing squares to Uranus might indicate that devoting and acting on jealousy are both a struggle and a foundation when coming out of being intuitive.

The waxing sesquiquadrate from the Sun and the Nadir to Juno might indicate that shining in our homeland comes out of dotting the i’s and crossing the t’s with regard to acting on jealousy.  The aspect gives some tension to be resolved.  The waning semisquare from the Midheaven to Juno might indicate that taking action on jealousy creates a bit of friction with regard to our reputation and that a cycle was closing between acting on jealousy and our reputation, at the time of the birth of our country.

The waning sesquiquadrate from Juno to Saturn might indicate that acting on jealousy would be an act of dissemination with regard to our idealistic governing. There would some irritation energizing the dissemination.  The waxing trine from Mars to Juno might indicate that leading coming out of acting on jealousy is easy for us and is creative in nature.

Vesta in a waxing sesquiquadrate to Chiron in the seventh house in Gemini might indicate that being intensely devoted to our goals would be to dot the i’s and cross the t’s when considered in regard to working hard intellectually for our allies and open enemies.  There might be some agitation associated with being devoted.

Vesta in a waning semisextile to the North Node might indicate that when we intensely devote ourselves to our goals, there would tend to be a growth in our sense of connection and good timing.  A cycle would have been closing between intensely devoting ourselves and that for which we would be popular.  We would have been tying up loose ends with regard to the two.

Vesta in a waxing inconjunct to the South Node might indicate anxiety related to that for which we would have been unpopular, when we devoted ourselves intensely.  Here, we would be crossing the t’s and dotting the i’s when integrating devoting ourselves intensely with our point of disconnection.  We would be approaching fulfillment in the integration of the two, which would happen at the opposition – with the conjunction of Vesta to the North Node.

Vulcan as ruler

Vulcan, the ruler that I use for Libra (see the post on the tenth house for more on Vulcan), and as such the eleventh house in the constitution chart, was in the twelfth house in Scorpio in the constitution chart.  With the ruler of the eleventh house in the twelfth house, we might find that we are our nation’s friends are friends out of compassion or as secret enemies.  We might find that much of the political process comes out of behind the scenes activity or a societal sense of helplessness.  With the ruler in Scorpio, we would be intensely private about what is behind our approach to eleventh house affairs.

Vulcan made one aspect of the very close aspects that I am using, a waxing square from Mars in the third house in Aquarius.  Squares are active aspects.  The waxing square of Mars to Vulcan might indicate that we would be struggling to build a foundation for leading in the electrical car industry with respect to intensely mathematizing our understanding.  Or that we are struggling to build a foundation for radically initiating ideas coming out of privately balancing our various understandings.

The Sibly Chart

The Sibly chart has twenty-nine degrees of Libra on the eleventh house cusp.  Since the time of the Sibly chart is not known exactly, I will delineate both Libra and Scorpio as on the cusp.  The house contains none of the points that I am using.

Libra or Scorpio on cusp

If twenty-nine degrees of Libra is on the cusp, then our approach to friendly nations, as well as our societal hopes and dreams, would be fair and harmonic, but in a perpetual state of crisis.  If Scorpio is on the cusp, then the approach would be intense, suspicious, emotional, and investigative.  The ruler I use for Libra, Vulcan, was in the second house in Aquarius in the Sibly chart.  The ruler of Scorpio, Pluto, was in the the second house in Capricorn.

Vulcan as ruler

Since the eleventh house does not contain any points (of those that I am using), the placement and aspects of the ruler of the house describe that which is going on in the house.  If the ruler is Vulcan, in the second house and Aquarius, that might indicate that the energy behind our friendships with other nations would come out of balancing radical values or electronic money.

Vulcan was making three aspects of the close aspects that I am using; a sesquiquadrate to Venus in the seventh house in Cancer, a square to Vesta in the fifth house in Taurus, and an inconjunct to Lilith in the ninth house in Virgo.  The aspects were delineated in the post on the second house.  Here, I will say that there would be energy and some insecurity behind our relations with friendly nations and our hopes and dreams.  And, since all of the points involved are points associated with women, women or issues affecting women would provide the impetus behind our eleventh house affairs.

Pluto as ruler

If Pluto, in the second house and Capricorn, rules the eleventh house, our approach to friendly nations and our hopes and dreams would, also, be based on our values and money.  But, the energy behind the approach would be practical and ambitious as opposed to being intellectual and egalitarian.

Pluto made three aspects of the close aspects that I am using.  Pluto was in a waning semisquare to the Sagittarius ascendant, a waxing sequiquadrate the Gemini descendent, and opposite the eighth house, Cancer Part of Fortune.  The aspects were covered in the post on the second house.  I will say here that professional delving and investigating into our values would add energy to our wild awareness and appearance and to our civil relations with our allies and open enemies.  At the same time, when it comes to our Part of Fortune, professional delving and investigating into our values might make us blind to the emotional approach to our joint resources that would make us happy.

USA Chart Comparison: The Tenth House

The tenth house in any chart is the most public part of the chart.  Whatever is in the tenth house is highly visible.  In the chart of a nation, the tenth house contains the government, the reputation of the country, the chief executive, and big business and industry, among other things.  In looking at the charts, I will start with the Sibly chart, then go to the constitution chart.

The Sibly Chart

The Sibly chart has Libra on the tenth house cusp.  With Libra on the tenth house cusp, we would be seen as fair, just, balanced, beautiful, and social, on the positive side.  On the negative side, we might be seen as wishy-washy, lazy, or superficial.  Our government would be intellectual.  Our presidents would use charm and conciliation to govern.

The house contains the points Saturn and Juno, both in Libra.  Libra covers the entire house.  The ruler of Libra, Vulcan (The traditional ruler of Libra is Venus.  I, and only I as far as I know, use the point I call Vulcan as the ruler of Libra.  The point is the mean over the shortest arc of the longitudes of the four major asteroids.  I have made an ephemeris for Vulcan from 1900 to 2050 available at http://vanwardstat.com/Vulcan%201900%20to%202050%20wdec.pdf or http://vanwardstat.com/Vulcan%201900%20to%202050%20wdec.rtf.). In the Sibly chart, Vulcan was in the second house in Aquarius.

Saturn in the Tenth 

Saturn in the tenth house in Libra is strong, since Saturn is the exalted ruler of Libra and the accidental ruler of the tenth house.  The placement might indicate that we govern in a balanced way through our government.  Or, that our president fears he or she lacks socially.  Or, that we take seriously our reputation as a fair country.

Saturn was making one aspect of the close aspects that I am using, a waning square from the Sun in the seventh house in Cancer.  The square is an active aspect, putting energy behind Saturn.  Since the square was a waning square, we would be achieving something by leading in the area of war and peace out of our president’s governing.

Juno in the Tenth
Juno in the tenth house in Libra might indicate any tendency that we would have toward being maritally  jealous would be very visible.  We might have a drive to ‘marry’ for peaceful purposes at the governmental level.

Juno made four aspects of the close aspects that I am using.  Mars was in a waning trine to Juno from the seventh house in Gemini.  Juno was in a trine to Vulcan in the second house in Aquarius.  Juno was in an opposition to Chiron in the fourth house in Aries.  Juno was inconjunct Vesta in the fifth house in Taurus.  These are not particularly active aspects, indicating ease, reflection, and anxiety.

Mars in a waning trine to Juno might indicate that getting verbally angry in our marriages and lazily jealous of our reputation at the same time would be an easy achievement in our country.  Juno in a trine to Vulcan might indicate an easy flow of energy between being lazily jealous of our reputation and harmonizing radically our money.  Juno opposite Chiron might indicate a conflict between being lazily jealous of our reputation and energetically working hard in our homeland.  Juno inconjunct Vesta might indicate that combining being lazily jealous of our reputation with devoting ourselves practically to our games would bring about a societal anxiety.

Vulcan Ruling the Tenth
Vulcan, ruler of the 10th house, in the second house in Aquarius might indicate that our government and reputation would have come out of balancing radical values.  Or that we would develop a reputation out of loving our scintillating senses.  Or that our president would be motivated to charm bankers electronically.

The Vulcan aspects were covered in the post on the second house.  The aspects are a waning sextile to Chiron in the fourth house in Aries, a square to Vesta in the fifth house in Taurus, Venus in a waxing sesquiquadrate from the seventh house and Cancer, an inconjunct to the mean Lilith in the ninth house in Virgo, and a trine to Juno in the tenth house in Libra.  So there are a lot of influences and a mix of influences affecting Vulcan, and thus the tenth house.  The influences are a mix of easy and energetic influences, including one edgy yod – covered in the last post, under the mean Lilith.

The Constitution Chart

In the constitution chart, Virgo is on the tenth house cusp.  Virgo on the tenth house cusp might indicate a reputation as a clean, discriminating, reasonable, practical country.  Our president would be service oriented.  We might expect him or her to be analytical.  Our government would be orderly and sensible.

Chiron Ruling the Tenth
There are none of the points that I am using are in the house.  The ruler of Virgo, and as such the ruler of the tenth house, is Chiron (I use Chiron as the ruler of Virgo – as do some others, rather than the traditional Mercury.), which was in the seventh house in Gemini in the constitution chart.  With the ruler of the tenth house in the seventh house in Gemini, our government, and how it works, would come out of an intellectual approach to fairness, war, peace, marriage and divorce, enemies, justice, and allies, among other things.  Our government would be the result of verbal interchanges and reflections.

Chiron made five aspects – of the close aspects that I am using; a square to the Sun, Saturn, Nadir conjunction in Pisces, a semisquare to Uranus in the eighth house in Leo, and a sesquiquadrate to Vesta in the eleventh house in Scorpio.  These aspects were covered in the post on the seventh house.  These are all active aspects, indicating that there is a lot of active energy behind the tenth house even if the house does not contain any of the points that I am using.

USA Chart Comparison: The Ninth House

In this post, I look at the ninth houses in the constitution and Sibly charts for the USA.  In the chart for a nation, the ninth house would contain pretty much what the ninth house contains in a natal chart; foreigners and foreign countries, religious institutions and religion, institutions of higher learning and higher education, the country’s belief system, lawyers and the legal system, the publishing industry – among other things.  Since our country is based on our joint belief system, the ninth house should be strong in the chart of the USA.  First I will look at the constitution chart.

USA Chart Comparison: The Eighth House

In this blog post, I will look at the eighth houses of the constitution and Sibly charts for the USA.  I will first cover the constitution chart.

The eight house in the chart of a nation holds things like power resources; taxes; policies toward sex, death, and the occult; financial relations with other countries; the finances of allies and open enemies; payouts by the government; and insurance companies, among other things.  It basically refers to joint resources, as in a natal or business chart.

The Constitution Chart

In the constitution chart, the eighth house has the first degree of Cancer on the cusp.  With Cancer on the cusp, we would approach eighth house matters, such as insurance companies or policy toward the occult, with a protective, caring attitude.  With the first degree on the cusp, we would be at the beginning of dealing with eighth house matters carefully.  As a country, we would initiate new policies at an emotional level with regard to things like sex, death, and taxes; or develop power in a liquid way.

The eighth house contains Jupiter in Cancer and Uranus in Leo.  Since Cancer is ruled by the Moon, the Moon is the ruler of the eighth house.  The Moon was in the seventh house in Gemini in the constitution chart.

Jupiter in the Eighth House

Jupiter in the eighth house in Cancer might indicate, for a nation, that we would expand in the area of power and control – in a fluid way and impulsively.  Also, expanding would be in the west-south-west direction (from New York City).

The Moon was – to the minute – in a waning semisquare to Jupiter.  Jupiter made no other of the very close aspects that I use.  The waning semisquare might indicate that irritation is generated when we combine emoting and trusting, that a cycle is closing between caring and expanding.

Uranus in the Eighth House

Uranus in the eighth house in Leo in the chart of a nation might indicate that we would scintillate in the area of solar power.  We might proudly radicalise our policies toward sex, death, and taxes.  Gangsters being under the rulership of the eighth house, we might have a problem with gangsters electrifying egotistical crime.

Chiron in the seventh house in Gemini was in a waning semisquare to Uranus.  Juno in Libra and Vesta in Scorpio, both in the eleventh house, were in waxing squares to Uranus.  The Scorpio Ascendant was in a waxing trine to Uranus.  The North Node in the first house in Sagittarius was in a waning (the progress of the nodes through the chart is backward) trine and the South Node in the seventh house in Gemini was in a waxing sextile to Uranus.  With a mix of active and easy aspects, our sparkling, radicalising, and electrifying would be evoked by a mixture of struggle and ease.

Chiron in a waning semisquare to Uranus might indicate that there is energy there for laboring hard in closing in on radicalising our joint finances.  Juno and Vesta, together in different signs, in a waxing square to Uranus might indicate that we are building foundations for wifing and sistering coming out of radicalising our attitudes toward sex and support.

The Scorpio ascendant in a waxing trine to Uranus might indicate our physical appearance is created easily out of electrifying (or radicalising) our country’s power.  The North Node in Sagittarius in a waning trine to Uranus and the South Node in Gemini in a waxing sextile to Uranus might indicate there is an easy and expansive flow of energy between good timing and our radicalising our joint resources, while, with regard to poor timing and looking backward, we are moving out into opportunities with regard to radicalising our joint resources.

The Moon Ruling the Eighth House

The Moon in the seventh house in Gemini, ruling the eighth house, might indicate that we deal with power and control when we make peace and war with our public emoting.  The Moon makes one aspect of the close aspects that I am using, an exact semisquare to Jupiter in the eighth house, which was covered above.  We might find ourselves a bit excessive in our emoting, but there is not a lot of activity behind our eighth house matters.

The Sibly Chart

In the Sibly chart, the eighth house has Cancer on the cusp.  As with the constitution chart, Cancer on the cusp would indicate an emotional, initiating energy behind our eighth house matters.  The house contains Mercury and the Part of Fortune in Cancer and the North Node in Leo.  The ruler of the house, the Moon, was in the third house in Aquarius.

Mercury in the Eighth House

Mercury in the eighth house in Cancer might indicate that when we communicate as a nation we would focus protectively on our joint resources.  Or that we would drive because of our environmental power.

Mercury was in a waxing semisquare to Uranus in the sixth house in Gemini. Mercury was in a waning sextile to Neptune in the ninth house in Virgo.  Mercury was in a waxing sesquiquadrate to Ceres in the third house in Pisces.  Mercury and the Part of Fortune were conjunct, with the Part of Fortune ahead of Mercury.

Mercury in the waxing semisquare to Uranus might indicate our reaching out to protectively communicate our joint financial resources based on radicalising the daily labours of the country.  Mercury in the waning sextile to Neptune might indicate achieving something through opportunities to protectively communicating our joint finances based on our idealizing our freedom and beliefs in an analytical way.

Mercury in the waxing sesquiquadrate to Ceres might indicate energy available to cross the t’s and dot the i’s when protectively communicating our joint finances based on unconditional cycling of ideas.  Mercury conjunct the Part of Fortune might indicate that as a nation, we are happiest when we protectively communicating our joint resources.

The Part of Fortune in the Eighth House

The Part of Fortune in the eighth house in Cancer might indicate the our happiness and fortune would come out of being protective and environmentally conscious about our joint resources; our policies toward sex, the occult, and the criminal underworld; and in our investigations and joint research; among other things.  The Part of Fortune was conjunct (and departing from) Mercury, as noted above, approaching the opposition to Pluto in the second house in Capricorn, and in a waxing inconjunct to Pallas in the third house in Aquarius – of the very small aspects that I am using.

The Part of Fortune approaching the opposition to Pluto might indicate that we would be bringing into awareness our fortune in our joint patriotic wealth in relation to our being compulsive about our political values and governmental money.  The Part of Fortune in the waxing inconjunct to Pallas might indicate some societal anxiety between putting all our ducks in a row patriotically with regard to fortune and women professing with egalitarian ideas.

The North Node in the Eighth House

The North Node in the eighth house in Leo might indicate that we are moving toward solar power, proud joint financial institutions, creative taxes, among other eighth house things.  We would have good timing with regard to eighth house matters.

The North Node was in a waning semisquare to Neptune in the ninth house in Virgo and in a waxing semisquare to Mars in the seventh house in Gemini.  This puts the North Node at the midpoint of Mars and Neptune.  We would grow from sneak attacks and the attacks would be irritating and would make us popular and get us all on the same page.

Since the South Node is opposite the North Node, the nodes, Mars, and Neptune form an active, kite-like formation.  In moving from careful popularity to fearful unpopularity, and vice versa, there would be tension, which might come from critically idealizing our believes and from battling verbally with our enemies and allies, for one interpretation.

The Moon Ruling the Eighth House

The ruler of the eighth house, the Moon, in the third house in Aquarius might indicate that protecting our radical ideas would be the motivation behind our careful approach to joint resources, as well as other eighth house matters.  The Moon only made one aspect, of the very close aspects that I use – a conjunction to Pallas in the third house in Aquarius.  The conjunction is an active aspect, putting some energy behind the eighth house.

The Moon departing from the conjunction to Pallas might indicate, among other things, that the public emoting is tied up with women professing.  Both the emoting and professing are done radically or electronically in the area of communications, cars, and  primary schools, among other things.

USA Chart Comparison: The Seventh House

The Sibly Chart

The Sun in the Seventh

Venus in the Seventh

Jupiter in the Seventh

Venus Ruling the Seventh and Mercury Ruling the Sign Intercepted in the Seventh